NDAA: Pandora’s Box ?
The coup d’état bill
National Defense Authorization Act(NDAA)
A different perspective.
S.1867,NDAA Appears to be abandoned.
H.R. 1540: National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2012
Last Action: Dec 21, 2011: Presented to President. And not signed.
It makes me so angry how blown out of proportion, taken out of context ranging from the absurd to downright fear mongering, and makes me wonder why so many people and even Ron and Rand Paul have jumped on this band wagon of fear mongering and out of context BS, it has already damaged Ron Paul’s campaign. I have been studying the facts on this NDAA over the last few weeks intensely. This kind of rhetoric is what will give them the excuse they are looking for to shut the internet down, all it would take is some disgruntled person, and there are many, to go off the deep end over all this nonsense.
I want my readers to understand that if I could find one shred of truth of these claims I would be all over it like flies on poop, as I wrote in my last article when they were starting this fear campaign about how FEMA is getting these camps ready. I contacted, completely separately and without letting either know I had contacted the other, KBR and the people I know inside, and their stories matched from 3 different sources.
1. Yes this bill is an anti-American piece of TRASH no doubt. Anything that condones secret prisons, torture and imprisoning anyone from anywhere with no trial is illegal and un-American as it get’s. Not only that this bill is going after Iran big time and of course giving billions of dollars for more death and destruction around the globe to the military industrial complex as our nation slips into a 3rd world banana republic. This is nothing new, think Patriot Act and Military Commissions Act, they do what they will anyway and always have because we the people let them.
2 . Yes this Bill does allow anyone including possibly American citizens to be arrested by the military and sent to one of these gulags but only if they have committed a belligerent act or directly supported such hostilities in aid of such enemy forces.
In aid of such enemy forces is the key.
A belligerent act in aid of such enemy forces, enemy forces in the bill are; as the bill reads- ” (1) A person who planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored those responsible for those attacks. Why isn’t anyone talking about this in the 9/11 truth movement? There should be a whole lot of people shaking in their boots right now.
(2) A person who was a part of or substantially supported al-Qaeda, the Taliban, or associated forces that are engaged in hostilities against the United States or its coalition partners, including any person who has committed a belligerent act or has directly supported such hostilities in aid of such enemy forces. Now this is from S. 1867 and has passed the senate but not the Congress nor been signed into law it looks to me that it has been abandoned. Here’s the link to see for yourself- http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=s112-1867
H.R. 1540 : National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2012 this is the Bill that has passed both Senate and Congress and is just waiting for a signature or a veto from Barry Soetoro AKA Obama. I have included Sec 1021 and 1022 below.
Enemy forces in this bill are a member of, or part of, al-Qaeda or an associated force that acts in coordination with or pursuant to the direction of al-Qaeda; and have participated in the course of planning or carrying out an attack or attempted attack against the United States or its coalition partners.
The question is, are you a member of the enemy forces, or have you committed a belligerent act in aid of such enemy forces? Have you supported hostilities in aid of such enemy forces? Are you a person who planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored those responsible for those attacks?
If your answer is no then the NDAA does not apply to YOU!
My conclusion and questions are.
This has nothing to do with the American people! It’s way bigger than that.
Why is no one in the truth movement talking about the good thing in this bill that would give the American Military by law to arrest, as this Bill states; “A person who planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored those responsible for those attacks. ” (This would include a broad range of Americans)
Might there be some kind of internal rift going on? Is this bill allowing the U.S. military to arrest anyone anywhere involved with 9/11 to be taken down and dealt with some kind of a counter threat in this great game being played out within.
It seems to me I would be pretty nervous if I were in the Bush administration or the intelligence apparatus and also remember this so called al-Qaeda is completely created by, run and controlled by al CIAduh let alone all the mock trials around the world, most recently Malaysia that have found Bush, Blair and Cheney just to name a few GUILTY of war crimes and crimes surrounding 9 1 1. I would be absolutely amazed if this ever gets signed into law. The good generals in the military would be responsible to arrest them all the day after it’s signed; legally!
Not only that, this will open Pandora’s Box for Russia and China to make their own laws to do the same, maybe God is working in mysterious ways and we will finally see some justice.
Almost everyone everywhere knows there are those amongst us that were/are involved with 9/11 and al-Qaeda.
This Bill is a threat and a dangerous game of chess being played out internally, if Obama signs this I wonder who the next Facebook patsy will be for the assassination. This is why I will be amazed if this ever gets signed into law.
If it does it will be very interesting to see if we have any real heroes in the military and if they will do their job, there should be a coup d’état within a few months and we will probably go under a military dictatorship temporarily until we get things sorted out.
If they want you they will get you without any legislation, bill or act, they do whatever they will and that’s what’s really scary. If this bill does get signed I really believe it will be eventually known in history as the coup d’état bill and we will see the US go into a military dictatorship for a short period until we throw off this abdominal government and replace it. The big brass is in the know and their just as tired of all this crap as we are, I think we are in for some interesting times very soon, it won’t be pretty I know but something has to be done soon or it’s going to be WWIII.
I still stand my ground and DON”T believe all this ‘the military is going to come after American citizens for blogging and being patriotic and start executing and throwing us in gulags’ this is all a bunch of BS and if it’s not all I can say is good luck it will be their biggest mistake, underestimating the American people.
FEMA, private contractors (KBR etc.) and the government are getting ready for a complete societal brake-down. I travel all over this country and I can’t even imagine in the event of a catastrophic event of any kind especially in these big cities. No one is prepared because most Americans believe nothing can happen here.
There are a lot of strange things going on inside the so called truth community… Beware!
H.R. 1540
Authorization for Use of Military Force
(Public Law 107–40) in military custody pending disposition
under the law of war.
‘Joint resolution to authorize the use of United States Armed Forces against those responsible for the recent attacks launched against the United States.’
Subtitle D—Counterterrorism
SEC. 1021. AFFIRMATION OF AUTHORITY OF THE ARMED FORCES OF
THE UNITED STATES TO DETAIN COVERED PERSONS
PURSUANT TO THE AUTHORIZATION FOR USE OF MILITARY
FORCE.
(a) IN GENERAL.—Congress affirms that the authority of the
President to use all necessary and appropriate force pursuant to
the Authorization for Use of Military Force (Public Law 107–40;
50 U.S.C. 1541 note) includes the authority for the Armed Forces
of the United States to detain covered persons (as defined in subsection
(b) ) pending disposition under the law of war.
(b) COVERED PERSONS .—A covered person under this section
is any person as follows:
(1) A person who planned, authorized, committed, or aided
the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001,
or harbored those responsible for those attacks.
(2) A person who was a part of or substantially supported
al-Qaeda, the Taliban, or associated forces that are engaged
in hostilities against the United States or its coalition partners,
including any person who has committed a belligerent act or
has directly supported such hostilities in aid of such enemy
forces.
(c) DISPOSITION UNDER LAW OF WAR.—The disposition of a
person under the law of war as described in subsection (a) may
include the following:
(1) Detention under the law of war without trial until
the end of the hostilities authorized by the Authorization for
Use of Military Force.
(2) Trial under chapter 47A of title 10, United States
Code (as amended by the Military Commissions Act of 2009
(title XVIII of Public Law 111–84)).
(3) Transfer for trial by an alternative court or competent
tribunal having lawful jurisdiction.
(4) Transfer to the custody or control of the person’s country
of origin, any other foreign country, or any other foreign entity.
(d) CONSTRUCTION.—Nothing in this section is intended to limit
or expand the authority of the President or the scope of the
Authorization for Use of Military Force.
(e) AUTHORITIES.— Nothing in this section shall be construed
to affect existing law or authorities relating to the detention of
United States citizens, lawful resident aliens of the United States,
or any other persons who are captured or arrested in the United
States.
(f) REQUIREMENT FOR BRIEFINGS OF CONGRESS.—The Secretary
of Defense shall regularly brief Congress regarding the application
of the authority described in this section, including the organizations,
entities, and individuals considered to be ‘‘covered persons’’
for purposes of subsection (b)(2).
H. R. 1540—266
SEC. 1022. MILITARY CUSTODY FOR FOREIGN AL-QAEDA TERRORISTS.
(a) CUSTODY PENDING DISPOSITION UNDER LAW OF WAR.—
(1) IN GENERAL.—Except as provided in paragraph (4), the
Armed Forces of the United States shall hold a person described
in paragraph (2) who is captured in the course of hostilities
authorized by the Authorization for Use of Military Force
(Public Law 107–40) in military custody pending disposition
under the law of war.
(2) COVERED PERSONS.—The requirement in paragraph (1)
shall apply to any person whose detention is authorized under
section 1021 who is determined—
(A) to be a member of, or part of, al-Qaeda or an
associated force that acts in coordination with or pursuant
to the direction of al-Qaeda; and
(B) to have participated in the course of planning or
carrying out an attack or attempted attack against the
United States or its coalition partners.
(3) DISPOSITION UNDER LAW OF WAR.—For purposes of this
subsection, the disposition of a person under the law of war
has the meaning given in section 1021(c), except that no
transfer otherwise described in paragraph (4) of that section
shall be made unless consistent with the requirements of section
1028.
(4) WAIVER FOR NATIONAL SECURITY.—The President may
waive the requirement of paragraph (1) if the President submits
to Congress a certification in writing that such a waiver is
in the national security interests of the United States.
(b) APPLICABILITY TO UNITED STATES CITIZENS AND LAWFUL
RESIDENT ALIENS.—
(1) UNITED STATES CITIZENS.—The requirement to detain
a person in military custody under this section does not extend
to citizens of the United States.
(2) LAWFUL RESIDENT ALIENS.—The requirement to detain
a person in military custody under this section does not extend
to a lawful resident alien of the United States on the basis
of conduct taking place within the United States, except to
the extent permitted by the Constitution of the United States.
(c) IMPLEMENTATION PROCEDURES.—
(1) IN GENERAL.—Not later than 60 days after the date
of the enactment of this Act, the President shall issue, and
submit to Congress, procedures for implementing this section.
(2) ELEMENTS.—The procedures for implementing this section
shall include, but not be limited to, procedures as follows:
(A) Procedures designating the persons authorized to
make determinations under subsection (a)(2) and the
process by which such determinations are to be made.
(B) Procedures providing that the requirement for military
custody under subsection (a)(1) does not require the
interruption of ongoing surveillance or intelligence gathering
with regard to persons not already in the custody
or control of the United States.
(C) Procedures providing that a determination under
subsection (a)(2) is not required to be implemented until
after the conclusion of an interrogation which is ongoing
at the time the determination is made and does not require
the interruption of any such ongoing interrogation.
NDAA FAQ: A Guide for the Perplexed
by Benjamin Wittes
(Benjamin Wittes & Robert Chesney)
The volume of sheer, unadulterated nonsense zipping around the internet about the NDAA boggles the mind. There was a time–only a few
months ago–when the NDAA detention provisions were the obscure province of a small group of national security law nerds. Now,
however, this bill has rocketed to international notoriety. The added attention to it is a good thing. It’s an important subject and
warrants genuine debate and discussion. The trouble is that much of the discussion is the intellectual equivalent of the “death
panel” objections to the health care bill. While certain journalists have done a good job covering the controversy, it’s much easier
to get bad information than good. The reader who wants answers to simple questions faces a confusing array of conflicting
information.
Here then, as a public service, is an NDAA FAQ–a simple attempt to lay out the key questions people are asking about the NDAA and
answer them as simply and neutrally as we can. Many of the answers here we have discussed in greater depth elsewhere on the blog. We
will link to those posts for readers who want greater depth. This is an overview, a Guide for the Perplexed.
http://www.lawfareblog.com/2011/12/ndaa-faq-a-guide-for-the-perplexed/
2012 WAR IS DECLARED ON THE ENEMY
Hello folks I have written a rant before Christmas this year targeted at the coming New Year with some of my heart felt feelings of what I feel is important to know, remember and pursue.
Some may not agree but that’s OK these are my personal feelings and I am just sharing some with you today and of course I do not expect everyone to agree with me, all I ask is to just think about it a little.
So here goes it, I titled this ramble of mine 2012 war is declared on the enemy…
Listen to me read this too you.
2012 WAR IS DECLARED ON THE ENEMY
Merry Christmas to all who celebrate it, and Happy New Year to all.

I know the coming new year will have many unknown-unknowns as Donald Rumsfeld would say, but one thing I do know, there will be as much good as evil, there always is, it’s just many of us as I are concentrating on the enemies evil these days and rightfully so.
The world today, make no mistake about it, is in a battle of good vs. evil. We are in the midst of a great war, this war centers on what’s right and wrong and can only be won by knowing the difference between fact and fiction and this is no easy task.
I know in my heart there is much more good than evil in the world as I hope you do also, the evil is being transformed into good exponentially. I also know sometimes this is hard to believe with what we are all a witness to today, it can be very difficult to keep our faith in ourselves and the Lord in these troubled times. As I said previously, this is a war!
As Sun Tzu in the ‘Art of War’ said…
“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle”? Sun Tzu
This enemy, Beelzebub, feeds on hate and ignorance; these are the two main ingredients it must have to survive.

It is up to us, the good people of the world to do the very best we can, in any way we can no matter how small or insignificant we may believe we are to learn truth and spread it anyway and every-way we can.
There is no such thing as insignificant and if someone say’s so, their the enemy. Everything and everyone looking for truth is of value in one way or another in this battle.
Truth and knowledge of it is the 100 megaton nuclear bomb that will destroy the enemy of love and peace on earth.
Our enemy for too long has had the luxury of controlling history and what we think, but now with us winning another battle by using the enemies own tool against them they have lost this luxury, it is destroyed.
This tool is the internet and even if they somehow shut it down today it is too late, too much truth is out of the bag and can never be put back.
Good is winning, but this is in no way going to be done overnight as we would like because of so many centuries of apathy from only knowing and depending on what the enemy has told us. Good has always had a huge problem believing there can be such evil, but now for the first time almost everyone, everywhere, knows.
As Zbigniew Brzezinski said in his speech on October 14, 2011 in Normandy, France; he said
…at a time when the world is suddenly politically awakened and seeking its own self-definition…
The enemy (evil) has only a very small army, this army has had the advantage until now by knowing it’s enemy very well, it’s enemy is the good people of the world.
Many say this is the end; the end of the world; the end of America, the end of rights, the end of liberty, and the end of freedom etc.etc.
I assure you it’s not, it’s just the beginning. Every day is a new beginning.
Mark 13:32- But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.
Let’s make 2012 the year of knowing the enemy. The liars and manipulators are getting easier to recognize every passing day.
Peace and love on earth, everything else is the enemy.
God bless you all and I hope you will be there next to me in the battle for truth, peace and love on earth in 2012.
Sincerely John at – thetruthnews.info
Also see related: A Rant Before Christmas (2009)
PrintFEMA Camps and the National Defense Authorization Act
Some Truth
by John Vodila
12/10/2011
thetruthnews.info

(ANYTHING CAN BE TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT
Most by now are aware of the story circulating around the internet about the government activating FEMA camps across the U.S.
Just as I, knowing the track record of FEMA, I am sure many are very concerned about the validity of this and just what is going on is the question most are wondering, as I am.
So I contacted KBR and also contacted some people I know inside KBR and here’s the story.
This is a reply to me from KBR
Thank you for asking about the truth concerning our search for subcontractors. KBR intends to respond to an upcoming Request for Proposal. FEMA is looking for companies that can set up temporary camps to house First Responders to natural disasters such as hurricanes, earthquakes, tornados, floods, etc. The services included in the KBR request for information are ones we cannot provide ourselves and will need companies who can react quickly enough to meet the FEMA goal of having a place for their responders to stay within 72 hours of a call up. The camps will be temporary in nature, and are not being “activated”. FEMA is trying to be proactive in preparing for timely responses if emergency responses are required. I hope this answers your question.
Regards
Bob Siefert
Manager – Small Business
KBR
Also the people I know verified the same story above, so I guess it’s a matter of what people want to believe. Are FEMA and the government getting ready to round up citizens of America, or are they possibly getting ready for the collapse of this empire and the coming chaos, a first strike?
Think about it for a minute, does anyone really believe it would be possible logistically or other-wise to round up 100 million people; how about 300 plus million people. Look FEMA couldn’t even take care of a single city and the military couldn’t control Baghdad. Look at New Orleans, and it is believed that this government / military complex is going to take over the armed American people?
Remember the only power over the people of any nation is the power they give and it seems we Americans today are giving it all.
There is today a-lot of un-American activity within our government and out-side of it.
Then there’s all this fuss over some Bill that passed, can a piece of legislation really seal our fate? Have we really become a people so weak?
As the government just passed the National Defense Authorization Act there’s much fuss over Sec 1031 and 1032, I have even posted this on the thetruthnews.info a couple weeks ago from the ACLU and finally have gone through it myself to see what exactly is in it, and I just don’t see it.
I see non-American citizens all through it and as far as Sec 1031 and 1032 here they are below, please let me know what I am missing here but I just don’t see anything, and nothing worse than what was passed years ago with the Military Commissions Act and Patriot Act.
Subtitle D—Detainee Matters
Sec. 1031. Affirmation of authority of the Armed Forces of the United States to detain covered persons pursuant to the Authorization for Use of Military Force.
This is section 1031.
“DEFINITION OF INDIVIDUAL DETAINED AT GUANTANAMO.
`Individual detained at Guantanamo’ means any individual who is located at United States Naval Station, Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, on or after March 7, 2011, who–
(1) is not a citizen of the United States or a member of the Armed Forces of the United States; and
(2) is in the custody or under the effective control of the Department of Defense.”
This is section 1032:
“SEC. 1032. EXTENSION OF AUTHORITY TO MAKE REWARDS FOR COMBATING TERRORISM.
Section 127b of title 10, United States Code, is amended–
(1) in subsection (c)(3)(C), by striking `September 30, 2011′ and inserting `September 30, 2014′; and
(2) in subsection (f)(1), by striking `December’ and inserting `February’.”
So 1032 just changes the Expiration Date, and 1031 is definition of someone who can be sent to Guantanamo as a non-American Citizen and a threat.
Subtitle D—Detainee Matters SEC. 1031. AFFIRMATION OF AUTHORITY OF THE ARMED FORCES OF THE UNITED STATES TO DETAIN COVERED PERSONS PURSUANT TO THE AUTHORIZATION FOR USE OF MILITARY FORCE.
(a) IN GENERAL.—Congress affirms that the authority of the President to use all necessary and appropriate force pursuant to the Authorization for Use of Military Force (Public Law 107–40) includes the authority for the Armed Forces of the United States to detain covered persons (as defined in subsection (b)) pending disposition under the law of war.
(b) COVERED PERSONS.—A covered person under this section is any person as follows:
(1) A person who planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored those responsible for those attacks.
(2) A person who was a part of or substantially supported al-Qaeda, the Taliban, or associated forces that are engaged in hostilities against the United States or its coalition partners, including any person who has committed a belligerent act or has directly supported such hostilities in aid of such enemy forces.
It still isn’t a done deal; below from politico.com
The president led a full-court press this week that included Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, Defense Secretary Leon Panetta and FBI Director Robert Mueller asking for revisions to the bill as House and Senate negotiators move swiftly to complete a final version. The White House already had threatened a veto if the bill isn’t changed, saying it could not accept legislation that “challenges or constrains the president’s authorities to collect intelligence, incapacitate dangerous terrorists and protect the nation.” http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1211/70196.html
One thing I do know is we are on the verge of WWIII and there is a high probability of seeing some real terror attacks due to blowback from all the killing we have done abroad, so maybe it’s high time to start concentrating on real issues like getting Ron Paul elected as president, bringing the perpetrators of 9/11,JFK,OKC and this phony worldwide banking crisis to justice, friends with all nations and entangling alliances with none, and kicking but when attacked or threatened to be attacked instead of moving along and going along with this setup that is consuming the very substance of our nation in what is comparable to the collapse of the World Trade centers in New York City.
Somehow some way we have to get focused, we are like leaves blowing in the wind. In my humble opinion the main issue is empire building and war, they are one in the same and it is the issue least concentrated on but will be the most when the real war starts, and by then it will be too late.
Below was submitted to me today:
NEW AMERICAN WAR
This coming war for Israel will be different, it will not be a pushover like the others, Iran has friends who really do have WMDS, and they will be coming to a city near you.
Both Russia and China have told the US, “no more aggressive wars for Israel or for profit.”
It does not bother your politicians because they will be deep underground, but you and your families, your neighbours, workmates and children will be out in it, severe radiation burns means the flesh just falls off your bones, just comes away in your hands and you die in torment, that’s if the germ warfare does not get you first.
You want this for America your friends and families? Then speak out, email your senators and congressmen and make sure they get the message, because the politicians have spent your money and soon they will be spending you.
Tell them NO MORE WARS and mean it, this is your last chance.
Sgt K Field
Time to think about reality and prepare for it.
Our enemies are preparing for the take down of America, that’s what it’s all about!
Pieces Of The Puzzle
Education: A Blast From The Past
John Vodila at thetruthnews.info
12/9/2011
The path we have followed for so long.
It’s amazing how long this has been going on, so today I would like to share some audio files I have chosen out of the library of Dr. Peter Beter. I have included the link to this library at the bottom of the page.
It is amazing to listen to intelligence from decades past and compare the correlations to the times today and how they coincide so closely. As back in the days of these audios, today we don’t get everything right but no-one is a mind reader or a future teller, but it’s amazing how close some get.
The war on America and the world has been going on for a long time and I believe we are near a climax once again, the manipulation and theft by the few of generations is astonishing.
As of today 12/9/2011 with the knowledge we have of the corruption and the well-known conspiracy theories that are known now to be bonified conspiracies such as the federal reserve not being federal and having no reserves of anything, the New World Order now an almost everyday word on the main stream media, it is now unavoidable to just shrug-off these truths as lunacy. For those that do they do it at their own peril and the peril of their children and future generations as we for reasons I will never be able to understand march down THEIR path blindly like livestock to the slaughter house to our uncertain demise.
I hope you find these historical interviews as educational and mind blowing as I.

(1921-1987)
Dr. Beter was General Counsel for the Export-Import Bank of Washington; a candidate for the governorship of West Virginia; cofounded SODESMIR, a mineral exploration company in Zaire; represented American gas utilities building a pipeline the length of Argentina; represented mining interests in underwater manganese nodule exploration in the Pacific; was featured at financial seminars in New York City, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Toronto, Montreal, Geneva, and other international financial centers. As a political and economic commentator, Dr. Beter worked with Wall Street luminaries including Franz Pick, Edward Durell, Colonel Curtis Dall, Norman Dodd, Emmanuel Josephson, and many others. He wrote prolifically, including Conspiracy Against the Dollar (Braziller New York).
The Tragic Truth About The FDR Era: Recorded Feb 11th 1976 (Col.Curtis B. Dall the son-in-law of FDR and Dr Peter Beters 1-4)
Tom Wilson (June 17th 1977) Man’s Most Spectacular Error Fades Into History: The basic philosophy That Explains Modern Times
Dr. Peter David Beter – Audio letters
Political and economic commentary, including The Conspiracy Against the Dollar and Audio Letters of Dr. Peter Beter (1921-1987), covering the Rockefeller Cartel, Bolshevik-Zionist Axis, and New Kremlin Rulers. Constant struggle for the world domination.

